Where do you see yourself sitting in the New Zealand art world?
I just created this kind of one-man niche that I inhabit. I designed "Dick Frizzell" and I am the only one who can do it properly. It's kind of funny. It's a funny little country; we're only big enough to have one of everything, so I'm it.
You're writing and illustrating an art history book. Do you find writing difficult?
It's difficult in as much as the more you write, the more there is to write - that's the problem. It's one rabbit hole after another. Once you start, all the stuff you didn't know you know appears on the page. But it's fun, I absolutely love it. I am dying to get back into the manuscript and nail it.
ENVY
What makes you feel envy?
I'm pretty content with what I have carved out for myself. I remember when Jude and I had very limited resources, back in the day, I used to get quite envious. You'd walk past restaurants you'd heard of and they would be chock-full of rosy-faced young accountants in their white-collared shirts drinking rosé and you'd think, "Gee, I'm going to go in there one day." Now I can afford to go in them, I don't want to.
Why is that?
Because of all those people.
You want to avoid the rosy-cheeked accountants?
Well that's another sin, isn't it? Feeling superior. Ha ha ha! Inverse snobbery, I'm very good at that.
SLOTH
Where does your fear of sloth come from?
We were brought up to value labour but I think it was this business of creating this "Dick Frizzell" character that I was talking about it. Doing it was pretty ambitious. The only people who succeed are the ones who get out there and go for it. Really, really go for it. Read about it, work it out, understand it inside out, where you fit, what's required. You drive yourself relentlessly on. Sloth looks a lot like giving up. Sloth looks too much like death, you know, so I am constantly running. Fear of sloth motivates me more than anything else. I'm so terrified of sloth or laziness that I am in constant motion, staying ahead of it. I have my sloth all rationed out.
So retirement doesn't interest you much?
Well, I don't know how you'd do it. I joke about retiring and taking up painting. I think you just peter out, you get too old to do it, which is another argument against sloth. You have these things you want to get done and sitting around dreaming about it doesn't do it.
Use it or lose it, eh?
Yes. I'm 76 and I am still amazed how magic painting is, the phenomenon of picking up a loaded brush and suddenly a tree appears in front of you. I can never quite figure it out. Every time I go to paint, I have to remember it all again. Moving faster than the speed of thought is a favourite trick of mine. You can talk yourself out of something pretty damn quick.
-Eleanor Black
Limited-edition glasses featuring Dick Frizzell's signature woodgrain print are available in Specsavers stores now. For each one sold, $25 will be donated to the Fred Hollows Foundation NZ.