My definition of success is having a loving relationship with yourself, partner, kids and whanau. Living your passion. Finding out you have made a difference. Finishing a run without collapsing.
My idea of success has changed as a young woman in the music industry, to now. Early on it was about performing a song well or achieving radio airplay. Now it's more about composing a song I'm proud of, performing it live and seeing the response from the audience. I love playing overseas because no one knows us from a bar of soap. They don't have issues around te reo Maori or my politics - in fact, I think that's part of our charm. When you go in with a clean slate, you stand and fall on your performance and that's quite liberating. Of course, the fact that after all these years, I'm still singing, recording, touring, writing - and feeling like I'm getting better at it - I think that's success.
My interest in the big questions arose at the University of Auckland in the 80s. On campus, I studied under Jane Kelsey and David Williams. I met and married my now former husband Willie Jackson, who was the youngest union president in the freezing works, so he was always fighting for the rights of his workers. For the whole Jackson family, including his parents June and Bob, politics and justice was all-consuming. I was around the likes of Hone Kaa, Patu Hohepa, Ranginui Walker, Rua Rakena, Syd Jackson and also Rob Cooper. Rob gave me Pedagogy of the Oppressed (Paolo Friere) to read, then he tested me on it. Every time I asked him a question, he would ask one back. It drove me nuts. But it sure got me thinking. The big questions in my life always evolved around tino rangatiratanga and justice. They still do.
I surprised myself by compromising on something I never thought I would. When I got married, it never occurred to me to drop my surname for my ex-husband's. We had some scrapes over that one. In the end, I took on a double-banger. It was a huge compromise for both of us.
If I were a word in te reo, I would be Maniapoto. Proudly so.