Barry Saunders, singer and songwriter for the long-running Warratahs, readily admits it's more difficult to get the band back on the road as they will be soon, in support of Runaway Days, their first new studio album in nine years.
"We're all harder to get out of home but we still love playing. We all love each other in our own funny ways, but the touring does get harder. Once you get on a roll it's great but it does have its discomforts, little things like just having some space. As you get older you need a lot more space for yourself - at least I do.
"Separate motel rooms, always have had. That's why we've got no money," he laughs.
Although the days of extensive touring are over, says Saunders, he is enthusiastic about taking their new songs to the audience the band has built up over 25 years and six previous albums.
He sounds almost embarrassed when saying that most of the new album was recorded in one day at the Depot in Devonport. "We sound like a bunch of cheapskates, but every time we try to assemble albums it doesn't work for us. We had a couple of albums we put together like a Lego set but it just didn't work.