Working on the set of a Nickelodeon TV show, Malcolm Kelley and Tony Oller dreamed of the big time - writing hit songs and touring the world playing sold out shows.
Now, with the top 10 singles Thank You and current hit Classic behind them, the American pop duo known as MKTO - after their initials - are starting to see those dreams come to life.
During a four-day promotional trip to New Zealand, the duo said they spent their breaks on now defunct kids' TV show Gigantic - cancelled after one season - writing songs together.
"When we had some downtime we cracked open the Macbook, started making songs and putting them on YouTube," says Kelley, who is also known for his role as the mysterious kid Walt in TV's Lost.