But I would argue, that though we probably don't need a whole channel dedicated to youth (and they're probably too discerning and too independent to want one anyway), there's still a need for live, local, youth shows, in much the same way as we still need student radio.
When you give young presenters an informal set-up and flexible guidelines, their energy and irreverence generally draw out revelations and insight far different from the more formal world of adult mainstream media.
Their style of interviewing, their viewpoints, their banter - they keep it real and honest. And they connect with their peers, whether they're discussing pop culture or current affairs.
Plus, youth shows are a strong training ground - a great place for young TV talent to be cultivated. Jon Bridges, Mikey Havoc, Jeremy Wells, Nick Dwyer - they all came out of shows like Ice TV, or channels like Max TV, MTV, Space, and Alt TV, and they've all contributed greatly to our local pop culture landscape.
U Live host Rose Matafeo is already making the leap from budding comedian and host to respected blogger and TV guest, and her co-presenters like Connor Nestor are equally at ease on camera. Surely there's more to come from them yet, and it seems remiss they'll now be without a show to host.
There's also a bunch of good "youth-oriented" local content being made that doesn't really have a home - TVNZ's web-based show Auckland Daze, for example, and the movies made during the 48 Hours Film Competition which used to be screened on C4 would be just as perfect incorporated into a youth-oriented show like U Live, as music videos are.
Which brings me to another point - the demise of U means one less platform for local music videos. Yep, in terms of hosted music TV, we've now only got Four Live and Juice TV.
Back in the 90s we had a huge amount of UHF space dedicated to hosted music television, now we're down to a few hours a week (plus unhosted video reels on C4 and various Sky channels). NZ On Air spend a lot of money funding local music videos, and while many of them find audiences via YouTube and band websites, music television is often how they're exposed to wider audiences.
So while I concede that a youth channel run by TVNZ may never have been the right idea (kids can smell a 40-year-old industry exec being patronising from a mile off), it feels like there's definitely a space out there for some live youth programming. Whether that space is best found in an independent online show, or somewhere on our established free-to-air channels is the next debate.
- TimeOut