He's far from a household name, but Eden Mulholland is one of New Zealand's great music brains - even if he's based in Australia.
He is an award-winning composer who's worked behind the scenes in TV, film, commercials, theatre and dance - on both sides of the Tasman - and has played a key role in bands like The Mots and Motocade.
Mulholland has now released his second solo album, Hunted Haunted, which he describes as his most succinct album to date. But a trip to New York to work with producer Victor Van Vugt, who's behind albums from the likes of Nick Cave, PJ Harvey and Beth Orton, caused him to swing between bouts of anger and "light-bulb" moments of sudden inspiration.
"I'd been looking for someone to work with because I knew I had good songs and I wanted to be challenged to make something I normally wouldn't make," says Mulholland.
"Normally I would've just chucked stuff on there and gone and had some good times and recorded it. And it probably would've been really cool, but I wanted the album to be this complete thing. So I went out on a limb with Victor," he pauses. "And it was challenging."