Eleanor Catton correctly picked John Campbell's star sign backstage before stepping out in front of a record-breaking crowd last night at the Auckland Writers Festival.
"He's an Aquarius, quite obviously, I think," she repeated on stage, before revealing that discussion of her belief in astrology "is what my publishers in the UK have called 'dropping the A bomb'."
But she called newspaper horoscopes "rather inane and silly ways into the discipline, really", saying she considers astrology, which informs the structure of her Man Booker prize-winning novel The Luminaries, to be a relational system, like a moving wheel.
Perhaps, she said, astronomy can be explained as "all in our minds", or with Jung's idea that it is our psychology projected into the heavens, but it doesn't matter. "Each explanation is fascinating to me."
Discussion was witty and deep during her conversation with Campbell, ranging from obscure clues Catton "planted" in The Luminaries, to love: "I think that love is the most vulnerable-making thing that there is. When you say 'I love you', you're rendering yourself completely powerless."