I was 60 so the year would have been 1987. But to explain what happened then, I have to go back a bit further. Many years previously, myself and two friends — Anne Randles who was South African, and Susie Skerman, who is a New Zealand painter — lived in the same club in London — it was supposed to be just for students but we managed to stay there. It was great fun. One summer we hitchhiked through Europe for six weeks — from Spain to Italy and all over Europe. It was just a wonderful time. It must have been 1953, the year Hillary conquered Everest.
Eventually our group separated. Sue left, Anne went back to South Africa and I stayed on the longest.
I had been in London to study singing. I had gone to the Melbourne University Conservatorium and got a diploma in singing there; then I went to the Joan Cross Opera School.
I was in England for four years in total. I came home because my mother was not well but it was time to come home anyway.
Despite my training, I was always too nervous to perform as a singer. But when I came back here, and met and married Peter, he introduced me to broadcasting and I got the job on Listen with Mother — a preschool programme that went out every morning on the radio. And it combined all the training I'd had and used all my skills, because I was a kindergarten teacher before I studied singing.