With a friendship going back to a fateful meeting at The Roxy in 1975, Bruce Springsteen and Martin Scorsese shared the stage in Los Angeles for a wide-ranging conversation about everything from their Catholic upbringings and maturing faith to Flannery O'Connor, concert documentaries and the role of an audience.
The Netflix-hosted event was in support of the Emmys campaign for Springsteen's one-man show Springsteen on Broadway.
An earnest Springsteen laughed at himself as he prepared to close out the evening with an acoustic performance of Dancing in the Dark saying that he was "here today begging complete strangers for votes".
But what better way to do so than with a nostalgic performance and a heartfelt chat about creativity and faith with one of the greatest living film-makers. And they got straight to the heavy stuff.
"All my work was informed by my years in Catholic school," Springsteen said to the intimate crowd of Emmy voters and press at the start. "All that redemption, damnation, all the Martin Scorsese films ... As I got older I stopped fighting against it. Now I draw on it and enjoy it. There's no greater well to draw on than myths of Catholicism. Everything is in there."