In playing an alcoholic, did you ever feel in danger of relapsing? You would have had to simulate similar bad habits which could have taken you backwards?
They call it a disease of chronic relapse and there's no way to know. It's important to be mindful that the whole key to sobriety is recognising that the potential for relapse exists. You see people who are 20 years, 30 years sober relapse. And it's scary and it's complicated. And people aren't even sure exactly why that happens. But in answer to your question, if I'm drinking a fake beer in a movie or going to dinner with someone and they have a drink, no, those things don't trigger me. It's deeper and more complicated than that. There are definitely things that are acutely and specifically painful for me around the process of recovering from addiction. It's one step forward, two steps back.
People relapse for different reasons, of course.
Well, yes. The central issues, for me, are just around accepting the fact that I will never be able to drink normally. You have to give up the ghost of that fantasy because once the mind becomes addicted to something, it can't unlearn that addiction. And accepting that fact, I would say, has probably has been the most important thing for me personally.
This movie is very painful to watch at times, especially when your character is dealing with his ex-wife.
Yes. For a lot of people, divorce is the single most challenging thing they will go through in their life. And divorce is hard, it's painful. And particularly with children involved. And I have had my own experience with that.
What do you hope people walk away with after watching The Way Back?
I guess if there's any specific ambition or hope I have for the movie in terms of its themes, particularly around grief and alcoholism, it's that we can recover from and overcome difficulties and we can overcome even the hardest of times. And that, that's not what defines you. I love that it's a message of hope and inspiration and that you can overcome difficulty. I didn't want to make a movie that was like a lecture. I don't think any alcoholics want to see that and I don't think any people who aren't alcoholics want to see that. I think you want to see a human story, a story about someone who you can identify with and maybe see part of yourself in their life.
The Way Back opens in cinemas on Thursday, March 5.