"Thank you so much. You're the highlight of my festival". That was an audience member to Helen MacDonald, at the audience participation stage of an exceptionally well run and enjoyable session. So much of the festival experience depends on good chemistry between writer and on-stage interviewer, and MacDonald and her chair Noelle McCarthy could hardly have been better matched. They managed to combine easy, witty banter with a very high calibre intellectual discussion about grief, death, our relationship with the natural world, and murderous birds.
"When my dad died, I responded mostly at a very intuitive level, and one of my intuitions was, to cope with Dad's death I am going to train a goshawk. Which is not something I generally recommend people do. They have a bit of a reputation as the psychopaths of the bird world".
In fact, as MacDonald made crystal clear, birds are never murderous: that's a human concept. "We use nature as a mirror of ourselves, we can't help it. But it's really important to see ourselves doing that."
She pointed to TH White's classic book The Goshawk as an example of a great writer projecting his own problems onto a wild creature; her brief account of how White came to write the book was a compassionate and beautiful piece of literary analysis, and also a fantastic bit of storytelling.
Earlier in the day, it seemed briefly as though a less successful match-up of interviewer to writers was going to derail the session featuring Daniel Mendelsohn and Helena Wisniewska Brow, who have both written books exploring family members' deaths in the Holocaust. Ten minutes in, an audience member called out to chair Peter Wells: "Is it possible to allow the people you're interviewing to speak? They're the ones we came to hear!"