Gretchen was one of the first women to speak up. There was no #MeToo movement at play when she did. She spoke when nobody had spoken.
She was the first. She was the pioneer and that took unbelievable courage. I cannot imagine being in her shoes, taking on the most powerful man in her industry and working in that toxic, misogynistic environment for so many years. Everyone just had to play ball or you were gone. She did it with great dignity and strength. To me, that's such a great story for women and inadvertently created this movement. A year later, when the Harvey Weinstein story broke, everyone felt safe enough to tell their heartbreaking stories, one after the other. This has been going on for such a long time — far too long — and the fact this movement has taken place is wonderful, these stories that those women have experienced in their lifetime, in any career at least once, it's pretty systemic.
How have you noticed a change in your industry over the last three years?
I would say there has been a significant change take place and not necessarily one that I thought I would witness in such a dramatic way. I hoped it would happen over time, but I think a really powerful change happened in front of the camera and behind the camera in the last couple of years. That's the heartening side of these stories. There's the heartbreaking side that we're sitting here listening to these awful, awful stories that took place but now, the space has been made to listen and for change to take place. Female-driven stories are now getting financed, which they weren't before, I think more female directors are being hired and same goes for writers and other technicians in our industry. That's the good part of this story that's come to light.
What about the pressure to look a certain way — has that changed?
I think that's always been there. There was a time when we were told come the age of 40, it's all over. And that's changed. In terms of being told that we have to look good, I think we want to look good, but we want to be taken seriously and there's no reason that the two things can't co-exist. For the red carpet, I want to look my absolute best and I use professional help to create something that looks good! It's not because I've been instructed to — I make that choice myself. I'm in charge of the decision making in terms of how I present myself.
You and Russell Crowe are friends and you've worked together before. How do you approach going head to head in roles which are so deeply in opposition?
Russell and I have a history and that definitely helped. It's nice to have that history, that foundation, that trust - especially given we're adversarial. He's playing this very powerful character and I'm playing someone who's the recipient of abuse. It can be scary with those dynamics but we're both professionals, we know what we're doing — it's not our first rodeo. There's a level of trust. Russell's incredibly respectful. Every time he put his hands on my body, he would ask permission and it was a highly concentrated set because of the nature of the story and how sensitive it was. Every step of the way there's eye contact: 'You good with this? You good with that?' That's the code of respect that goes on between the two actors and Russell and I certainly have a shorthand. We take our work very, very seriously. Not to say there's not room for an icebreaker joke here and there.