But who says ethical practices actually get in the way of doing the best business?
One New Zealand company says it doesn't, and that even in the current tough times, their values are what's actually helping them adapt.
One The Pivot Pod I talked to Chloe and Florence van Dyke from Chia Sisters.
We discussed how their business changed over lockdown, how the living wage and solar panels actually helped their business, and what they're hoping to try next.
For the full interview, listen to the podcast on the player above.
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