It is easy to write off such people as kooks. But it's harder to do that when meeting them face to face, as they are all intelligent, empathetic people.
And really, are they any more deluded than the various Dirty Politics players? Are their ideas more nutty than the insistent mantra that the global marketplace will provide the solution to all and every problem facing the world?
As just one example, the former Labour and current National governments have endorsed foreign concerns owning and operating our vital infrastructure, all in the interests of free trade. In some cases it works; in others, it's just a cost to industries and the public. Poor, unloved KiwiRail is an example of the latter. The company has just posted an almost $250 million loss, attributed in part to "crippling" write-downs in the value of its assets.
Those are assets that could have been maintained locally, but (short term) cost containment saw everything "offshored" with woeful results - European ferries fell apart and couldn't be fixed in Singapore, Chinese-built carriages were found to contain asbestos, and some trains from Korea had questionable brakes. Those are all problems that feed into a downward spiral for the company - a trajectory that could have been reversed had there been any political will to "favour" domestic suppliers.
Novopay is another example: a system that required overhaul, but seemingly no local company was considered good enough to provide the solution. Four foreign bidders were shortlisted. The winner? An Australian company that promised the earth on the smell of an oily rag, with an inevitable inability to produce the promised product.
The Novopay debacle is particularly galling when you consider that a company based on the North Shore, AMS, has been doing complicated payroll management work for decades, with an entirely local workforce and plenty of glowing testimonials, but didn't make the shortlist.
AMS has, in fact, been quietly paying half the public health workforce - about 40,000 people - for the past two decades. It's the largest payroll in the country - exceeding public education by $1 billion - and with thousands of iterations of pay. A provider that is already doing the work, and based on our back doorstep. Perhaps it wasn't flashy enough.
Analyses by Treasury itself seem to indicate that good local providers are every bit as cost effective as well-marketed offshore applicants; how sad that we don't allow ourselves to follow common sense and maintain sovereignty over our suppliers. Perhaps we have been listening too long to the logic of lobbyists thrust into our commentary by an effective right-wing cabal.