''We are going there to win first and foremost, that's why you play the game, but on the other side of the coin, we are going there not to lose.''
It is, of course, one of the great footballing cliches, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.
Rotorua United's WaiBOP women's premiership winning team make the long trek to Whangarei today for the first leg of a two-game playoff against Northland FC tomorrow.
The victor over the two legs will secure a place in next season's Northern League premier women's competition and going there not to lose is the philosophy coach Ron Cane wants his side to adopt in Whangarei.
Apart from injured Danni McKenzie and Rosie Harding (both knee) and Maddi Ollington who is overseas, Cane has a full complement of players.