Love them or hate them, there's no denying that the Sensible Sentencing Trust has made a difference over its 10 years.
During years of covering the courts and legal issues I've had a bit to do with the trust and they certainly do provide a voice for the victims of crime.
But they have done more than that. They have pushed for changes in the justice system and have had some success.
The brainchild behind the trust, Garth McVicar, was in Rotorua last week and spoke at a public meeting of some of those successes which included the introduction of a $50 offender levy which anyone who is convicted of a crime has to pay.
They pushed for a review of the legal-aid system which had grown from a $150,000 spend in its first year to $150 million spend in more recent times.