It's amazing how one reality TV show can create such self-doubt, self-hate, guilt and judgment. And that's just among the viewers.
Want to cause an argument among a group of people? Just mention you watch The Bachelor.
Twenty or so women jostling and preening for a man they hardly know is, on the face of it, demeaning, cringeworthy and does little for feminism.
We hear today from Papamoa's Lara Christie who this week failed to receive a rose from bachelor Jordan Mauger. For the uninitiated that means she was "kicked off" the show and is no longer in the running to win the show/Mauger's heart - whichever the ultimate purpose is.
It's also been revealed ratings for the show hit an all-time low this week with just 223,000 Kiwis tuning in on Tuesday. That's a big drop from the 345,000 who watched four weeks ago.