It's criminal - New Zealand has the second-highest imprisonment rate in the Western world, just behind the United States with its gangs, rampant gun culture and where the death penalty is cause for rejoicing in some parts.
Here are a few chilling statistics - 66 per cent of prisoners have alcohol and drug problems; 60 per cent have personality disorders; 30.1 per cent will be re-convicted within a year of release from prison.
Something is going wrong and we need to take a good, hard look at how we can reduce the number of inmates.
One obvious way is to help those who end up inside to get on the right path when released, so they do not end up back behind bars.
Yet it can seem the odds are stacked against rehabilitation.