Unless you knew him, the inimitable John Wansbrough wouldn't lecture you with the story of his illustrious career in theatre and television.
The audio producer and photographer at the New Zealand Opera School was born and brought up in Whanganui, but left at 21 to take up a position as an audio engineer in Auckland with New Zealand's first record label, TANZA, that included radio and TV commercials.
But during a trip to London in the 1960s, he was offered the role of production and stage manager for the memorable Black and White Minstrel Show on the West End, completely changing his holiday plans. There were two shows a night, at 6.15pm and 8.45pm, not to mention rehearsals during the day.
"It was always exciting, always busy, and there I was right in the middle of London in the 60s ... Carnaby St and all that," Wansbrough said.
Even though he wasn't keen to return to New Zealand, he knew he had work in television to come back to.