I always enjoy talking to Dee Brough. She's intelligent, caring and knowledgeable.
As well as her active involvement with theatre, Dee's employed at UCOL, is involved in unionism and is the chairwoman of Community Education Whanganui Trust.
"We've got 28 courses currently available," she told me.
"It's really a response to demand. For example, a few years ago we had a lot of people wanting to learn to crochet so we ran courses on crochet, but now there's no demand for it so we've dropped it."
Unionism?