Big talk about working together among the amalgamation debate seems to be a moot point when it comes to the relatively new Hawke's Bay Intersectoral Leadership Group (ILG).
Formed almost two years ago it is made up of leaders from around the region, from mayors to MPs, heads of central government departments and Maori leaders, it has been labelled as one of the "more important' bodies to be formed in the Bay.
It was instigated by the Hawke's Bay District Health Board's chairman and chief executive Kevin Atkinson and Kevin Snee to address some of the more pressing health issues facing people here.
While it has been well-received by most leaders, Central Hawke's Bay mayor and shared services proponent Peter Butler sees the ILG as nothing more than a "talk fest". He said it was not his version of shared services.
"My shared services are Napier running the roading division, Hastings running the sewerage division, Central Hawke's Bay running the finance division something like that," said Mr Butler.