Anyone taking a bet on the Hawke's Bay Magpies' Ranfurly Shield defence against Ngati Porou East Coast at McLean Park in Napier on Saturday might want to ask the TAB to open a book on the size of the crowd.
With just three days to go, Hawke's Bay Rugby Union commercial manager Dan Somerville was conceding that even he still couldn't really pick it, saying: "Anywhere between 3000 and 5000."
The thing is that while the tiny East Coast union's best have usually been comfortably beaten by Hawke's Bay, one game stands out, even among interprovincial matches between any unions in New Zealand.
It was the 2001 national provincial championship division 2 final which packed the park, notably, judging by a wall of blue across the crowd, with Coast supporters clearly outnumbering those of the Magpies.
Living in Christchurch at the time, Somerville wasn't at the game, but says: "Everyone I ever talk with about it says it was one of the most memorable games they've ever been to."