"We (the Bay) being the big dog apple growers in New Zealand we should be up there in producing top cider - there are opportunities out there and we should be taking them."
Mr Paynter said latest consumer figures told a promising story in that recent cider sales and consumption in New Zealand had risen by 34 per cent. He believed Hawke's Bay had the potential to become the cider capital of New Zealand, and New Zealand to follow in the footsteps of the wine industry and make some of the best, if not the best, ciders in the world.
And his aim is high.
"The challenge is to make something that delivers the complexity and elegance that you get from New Zealand wine, which is a big ask because our vintners are doing such an exceptional job."
Buoyed by being judged the maker of the best Kiwi cider of 2014 Mr Paynter said he was "not there yet" but was going to be working hard to catch up.
He said the next 10,000 litres of the red label, the 2014 vintage, was set to be bottled next week and early indications were it would surpass the 2013 vintage which picked up the Cider Trophy. Apples were in his blood, he said.
"I'm a fifth-generation apple grower in the biggest family-owned apple growing company in New Zealand - I can't help but make cider," he said.
Mr Paynter also steers the Yummy Fruit Company in Hastings.
Since 2006 he has planted four small blocks of apple specifically for cider production.
He said he looked forward to the day when restaurants would roll out a wine list, a beer list and an equally comprehensive cider list.