They have never won the Chatham Cup but Melville United co-coaches Michael Mayne and Sam Wilkinson went agonisingly close as players.
Mayne was a runner-up with Bay Olympic in 2010, as was Wilkinson for Melville United in 2003, when they lost 3-1 to University-Mt Wellington and incumbent skipper Aaron Scott was just a schoolboy.
"Waikato United won it in 1988 when Sam's dad, Roger Wilkinson, was in it, so that's the last time a Waikato team won the Chatham Cup before Waikato United and Melville amalgamated," explains the 34-year-old Fairfield College teacher from Hamilton before they face Thirsty Whale Napier City Rovers at North Harbour Stadium on Sunday at 3pm.
With Rovers losing 2-1 to Wairarapa United in 2011 in Palmerston North, and then slipping by the same margin to Eastern Suburbs four years ago, does that make the Blues favourites?
"I think, historically, Napier have obviously four successes going into this game, where the bookies have made us odd favourites but we're not looking at that," Mayne says, mindful of the experience in player-coach Bill Robertson's squad.