Debating the end-of-season antics partaken by Super Rugby team the Chiefs before they disbanded this week is fraught with risk.
This was highlighted by the she-said, he-said stuff in which a lass called Scarlette and the team's management became embroiled. Being the respondents, Chiefs' management were caught between a rock and a hard place, with perhaps, no correct correct answer. Placing one's foot in one's mouth seemed inevitable.
So, where does one start?
At the beginning, and what we expect of our professional sports people, or what we seem now to be told to expect of our professional sportsmen.
It's a clash of two eras. Remove "professional sportsmen" from the debate and what we have is just one of the many variations of how people have tended to leer-up at the end of a tough campaign for centuries.