In the ideal world, long-serving Hastings policeman and 2016 Queen's Birthday Honours ONZM recipient Ross Stewart would have done himself out of a job years ago.
Overwhelmed by even being nominated, in recognition for his service to the police and youth, the 61-year-old - whose 42 years in the New Zealand Police included calling the first Family Group Conference - says reducing criminal offending to zero is the ultimate goal of working with the young.
But while it hasn't been achieved, he still loves the job and there have been a lot of successes, most recently the Alternative Action Programme which, run with Te Taiwhenua o Heretaunga in Hastings, is credited with huge reductions in recidivism and Youth Court appearances.
Mr Stewart began specialising in police youth service in 1984, and staged the Family Group Conference when he was working on the Kapiti Coast.
It was held in a house in Paraparaumu.